- 33% Adventure
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so @VCOLL i also agree to an extent but what do you mean a damned future isn't she just back where she started which according to the flashbacks in this episode other than her friend life does not seem to bad for her there. Not to mention Barry literally should have done that FROM THE BEGINNING given fragile timeline states etc that he knows about so ya HERO DAD sounds about right.
Well, in her time shes the ONLY SPEEDSTER, HER DADS MISSING HER MOM CANT BE TRUSTED AND THE ONLY ONE WHO'S HONEST WITH HER IS ABOUT TO DIE, This is how supervillains are made. Barry goes to other reallities all the time, he time travels whenever its convienient, then judges his unborn kid for HER CHOICES? The writers seem to be full of themselves with judgmental stories for the biggest hypocrite in the dc univers who rewrote time TWICE, UNCREATED A CHILD CREATED A CRISIS PARRADOX then abandoned his kid whos mom genetically manipulated her as well as lied to her entire life, then gets on his high horse for her working with reverse flash JUST LIKE HE DID WHEN HE NEEDED HELP. The hypocrisy is sickening. I still watch it BUT NOW I LOOK FORWARD TO FLASH DISAPPEARING, HE IS A TERRIBLE DAD SO IS SHES A WORSE MOM.
I agree with you. The future she has been sent back too definitely isn't damned, it's just the life that she was always living and the timeline she belongs too even though it's a sad one. i don't know how everything would have gone had he sent her back. How would they have defeated Cicada? Nora does annoy me but I think that the main thing is that she thought helping her Dad solve this case would stop him from being trapped in the timeline/speed force or wherever he was trapped in. As much as I sympathise with Nora, I feel for Team Flash more particularly Barry because he has had quite a few people lie to him in the past so the one thing he values a lot is honesty and for his own daughter to lie to him whilst working with the person he hates most in the world, that understandably really hurt. However I feel like Nora is gonna come back somehow. Barry made a good call though. She was gonna have to go back eventually and she had stayed long enough, way past her time.
accidentally clicked spoiler so this is just a non-spiler clicked duplicate comment @Phaeron I apologize for the assumption of nationality (seriously I do blame the American in me, self-centered we are) I agree with what your saying about the sheep thing completely and I guess I really can't say with 100% certainty that yes China makes the best product but what even is quality today as you said quantity over quality but that is how all business works quality is determined by the consumer and that's why we continue to mindlessly wait in line for the next big phone (I myself don't do that it is just dumb). And when it comes to quality in my opinion only of course China does make better products. Because there moreover the only people that really make them any more you look at everything you own and it is from China and yes that goes back to the whole quantity over quality thing but I personally don't look at where something is made I compare it to other products of the same kind. I like my computer, it is made in China but I bought it because I like it better than other computers aka quality, my glasses for christ sake were made in China I bought them because you guessed it I like the quality. Quality is all a matter of opinion and according to most peoples opinions (everything they decide to buy over other products) China makes better quality goods they don't think about the fact of where it was made just how it compares to other goods. In a perfect world all countries would work together to make the world a better place with everyone getting the best of everything made by a coalition of countries and minds however contrary to what I want and hope for the future it is doubtful that such a thing could ever occur mostly because as you said we are all more or less mindless sheep. As for the Orville comment I got a bit snappy with that one and I apologize I get what your saying about over saturation however I personally don't believe that inclusion equals over-saturation which was really the point I tried to make with the are gays constantly on the screen making out and professing there love for one another that to me as pro sexuality as I am would be over-saturation having a couple gay characters in a show that show there love for there partner occasionally doesn't qualify as that to me. However I will say you shouldn't give up tv (not that I really think you will I mean come one who could) there are still plenty of shows out there that don't adhere to political agendas you just got to search them out.
You seem like a good bloke Steven, I may have been pushing my own agenda, but i've been enjoying a few beers and reading. Cynical in a lot of ways, but that's just experience. Have a good one.
As for Toxic Masculinity a term I think is dumb myself in basic terms it is "the constellation of socially regressive male traits that serve to foster domination, the devaluation of women, homophobia and wanton violence" i.e. thinking ever man needs to be tough, straight, and dominant over females in all things. The roid raging is def a part of that though so points to you for that.
The role of a man in a relationship has been reduced to "Partner" as opposed to the tradition breadwinner , disciplinarian of the family unit. I'm not inferring women are lesser, just our roles were clearly defined as seperate between traditional hunter gatherer, and home keeper, protector both being equally important. Men have been left with a kind of void in regard to being needed . Women now don't require a man to provide, they are self sufficient, removing our being needed. Without purpose the rules dissolved with it. Men are all spectrums from effeminate to Macho. I think a fist fight is good for the character, knowing your capabilities under pressure can be empowering win or lose and usually ends in friendship. Making anyone fearful for the sake of feeling strong is pathetic.
@Phaeron I apologize for the assumption of nationality (seriously I do blame the American in me, self-centered we are) I agree with what your saying about the sheep thing completely and I guess I really can't say with 100% certainty that yes China makes the best product but what even is quality today as you said quantity over quality but that is how all business works quality is determined by the consumer and that's why we continue to mindlessly wait in line for the next big phone (I myself don't do that it is just dumb). And when it comes to quality in my opinion only of course China does make better products. Because there moreover the only people that really make them any more you look at everything you own and it is from China and yes that goes back to the whole quantity over quality thing but I personally don't look at where something is made I compare it to other products of the same kind. I like my computer, it is made in China but I bought it because I like it better than other computers aka quality, my glasses for christ sake were made in China I bought them because you guessed it I like the quality. Quality is all a matter of opinion and according to most peoples opinions (everything they decide to buy over other products) China makes better quality goods they don't think about the fact of where it was made just how it compares to other goods. In a perfect world all countries would work together to make the world a better place with everyone getting the best of everything made by a coalition of countries and minds however contrary to what I want and hope for the future it is doubtful that such a thing could ever occur mostly because as you said we are all more or less mindless sheep. As for the Orville comment I got a bit snappy with that one and I apologize I get what your saying about over saturation however I personally don't believe that inclusion equals over-saturation which was really the point I tried to make with the are gays constantly on the screen making out and professing there love for one another that to me as pro sexuality as I am would be over-saturation having a couple gay characters in a show that show there love for there partner occasionally doesn't qualify as that to me. However I will say you shouldn't give up tv (not that I really think you will I mean come one who could) there are still plenty of shows out there that don't adhere to political agendas you just got to search them out.
No freaking clue how China came into this conversation but on that note all I have to say is while I do not appreciate there slave labor, I think we should all admit that they do make the best products and fast that has always been part of why slave labor is considered effective, not saying America does not make good products but most of the best products are made in China or really any place but America (Taiwan, Japan, etc I believe the only worthwhile product we make are the cars) due to China's "efficiency" not to mention that everyone seems to blame China for stealing American jobs even though it is the American companies who do the outsourcing you want to blame someone for China "stealing" jobs take a look inward and blame your own country for a change we are not this speckle free utopia most people seem to have deluded themselves into thinking they are.(I am american as I assume you are based on your comment). I mean shit while the president sits here and gloats that he has save factories (which are going out of business more due to machines than other countries) he is outsourcing other jobs to China.(Don't really want to get into a political shindig about Trump and everything that entails just figured I would point out some facts.) Outsourcing is not necessarily a bad thing it is cheaper and is a smart business move but to claim you hate it on one hand while shaking hands with the other is hypocritical and just plain lying.
I'm Australian bud, In regard to China making the best products, I have to disagree. Quality has been lost to mass production in my opinion. I see China has offered the only resource they have too much of, labour. The ridiculousness of company's going public on the stockmarket changing from a consumer satisfaction driven b usiness model, to a capital generating corporation, interested less in customer satisfaction and more in producing the MVP (minimum viable product) packaged with a set of terms and conditions that is so deliberately overly worded in vernacular that you have to check it's english. We are not valued customers anymore, we are sheep that with the right prodding will line up for days to buy a phone. I missed something somewhere, it's our money that keeps their lights on.
@Phaeron this is basically just like your Whiskey Cavalier review you say you don’t hate gays (like most who seem to be appalled at the appearance of gay people in a show for some reason no coincidence there I am sure) yet you like many others who I am sure feel the same as you seem to balk at the idea that a show can have some gay characters. So what if there are gay characters gay people exist so is there any reason they shouldn’t be in the show. Other than unconscious homophobia I really don’t see why so many people have a problem with some gays in a show Is every character gay is the whole show send it around a gay character are they making it so that the gay characters in every single scene making out with the man know so why is it that they have a gay character or a couple characters in the show and everyone has to say oh you know I really wish they didn’t put gay characters in the show I don’t not like gays but really should there be gay people in the show why the fuck not even people who watch shows that are in the past that take place in the past I should say and have a problem with gays it doesn’t make sense gay people have always existed they always will exist and having them in the show is not a force as much as it is just acknowledging the reality you lov is every character gay is the whole show send it around a gay character are they making it so that the gay characters in every single scene making out with a man know so why is it that they have a gay character or a couple gay characters in the show and everyone has to say oh you know I really wish they didn’t put gay characters in the show I don’t not like D’s but really should there be gay people in the show why the fuck not even people watch shows that are in the past that take place in the past I should say and have a problem with gays it doesn’t make sense gay people have always existed they always will exist and having them in the show is not a force as much as it is just acknowledging the reality you live in
Not really the same as WC, not just questioning the retrofit. What do you think of the show yourself? I think I was just inferring there are Gay oriented shows, think it's more over exposure than homophobia. This has been cathartic, I'm giving up TV shows. The storytelling is second place to whatever agenda they wanna push on us.
@TheFlyingMan which in short hand again means that our government is more to blame for the outsourcing than china we've been outsourcing since the American Revolution when we got France to do our shit for us then of course famously you have WWII where we betrayed our own "Morals" to hire Nazi's to help us make technological advances to catch up to the other countries who were beating our asses
@Phaeron I believe that your buying in to what the new age is calling toxic masculinity where you think every male has to be this tough and gruff individual with no feelings who doesn't need any women to help them....you know it works both ways not every male lead needs to be superman not every female needs to be a ball of feelings solely there to adhere to a mans whims and sleep with him. There are plenty of shows where men are as tough as you clearly want them to be..go watch Sons of Anarchy or something jesus just saying I don't disagree that some shows take it a bit far but I am seeing a trend here where men see that the men in a show are not all tough and macho at all times and its like an insult to their own manhood.....also with the pay scale thing really are you a proponent that two leads equal in capacity on a show both male and female shouldn't be payed the same...why is that, explain. Lauren Cohen literally left walking dead because she wouldn't get pay parity with andrew lincoln and norman reedus even though she is just as big a character especially in recent seasons it is a fair thing to do. Looking up the description of this show the first sentence is literally "Following an emotional breakup, tough but tender FBI super-agent Will Chase (codename: Whiskey Cavalier) is assigned to work with CIA operative Francesca"Frankie" Trowbridge (codename: Fiery Tribune)." Did you get that tough but tender I don't think you know what you signed up for when you started watching this show if your upset that the clearly soft main lead was being well soft. You yourself pointed out a show where the same man is tough (The Unit) because the show calls for it in this show he is "tender" that's how tv works people play characters and not all men are hardasses. I am sure he will be in another show or movie down the line where he plays someone tough again don't worry. The clear levels of racism, homophobia, sexism, and sexual orientation discrimination that goes on in this site, hell this world is appalling. We are all equal regardless of race, creed, sex, and sexual orientation, at the end of the day were all going to die and fade into nothingness and for all you people to think your somehow better than someone else because of something like the above list is just retarded.
I dont hold any grudges against faceless people on the internet however would like to point out @Hellfist that your lying about moving past name calling here is a quote fromon of your supergirl reviews last week "Oh on second thought i might just continue to watch and post shit just to hear you stupid mother fucker talk shit back because fuck you. lolol" You really shouldn't try to blatantly lie when the evidence is all there just saying.
@TheFlyingMan that is what I figured but roguexx's next comment is how they weren't talking to someone and were thus ignored and the only person i see that referenced them is me that's why I am just confused....does that make sense....I guess I will shut up now cuz i think I may be just dumb here however just to add did you just assume roguexx's gender because there named rogue....that's sexist.....jk of course just pulling a cinemasins
Sorry @roguexx I'm a little confused were you saying you weren't talking to me....cuz you mentioned the P.S. cracking you up so I figured you must've been talking to me given I'm the only one that used a P.S. in this thread of comments hence my response. Not trying to be rude just confused.
Wow @DarkFace i guess this was a r/wooosh moment for you since you clearly didn't get that I understood you were insulting me for no reason and that I was not going to be a child, let you bait me and insult you back for no reason. But way to prove to everyone and reassure me that yes you have nothing meaningful to add and you are a bit of an immature child. As I said previously your claim to want to discuss something here is clearly untrue you just want to insult people, I guess life at home is hard huh if you have to come online to insult strangers for no reason (or maybe your just compensating for something). Most people who facelessly insult people on the internet don't have the balls to back it up in real life, don't worry I won't hold it against you I to was 12 once. How was that for a robotic wall of text.
First @DarkFace i guess you haven't read my other reviews where I do indeed offer insight including the one on Titans with Matoyoshi that you were a part of btw....what is it that your trying to discuss exactly why don't you elaborate given you didn't even comment on the show we are commenting on...not really sure why telling someone that commenting the same crap over and over makes me a loser and not sure why Hellfist commenting what he comments makes him a loser but I guess you don't really have anything to add but meaningless insults to the conversation so really who cares what you say at least we were having a discussion of two opposing ideologies what makes our debate/discussion any different than the debate you, me, and Kruciphix had with Matoyoshi a while back, and in that same vain @roguexx ya I don't make a tendency of insulting people just because I don't agree with them really is no reason to attack Hellfist because he was wrong that's just unnecessary and to me makes you seem childish. When someone needs to insult someone instead of using "big boy words" to prove a point it just seems immature to me, calling someone a dumbass to me is the same as some child calling someone a poopy head why do that when instead you could hash out your points and reasoning in an adult manner.
Of course now that everybody ragged on you last week your gonna sit here and say you liked this episode and you think its improving (your full of it) dude who are you trying to convince, yourself, no one wanted you to quit watching no one cares if you watch a show you hate...its just that no one wants to hear you make the same complaints week in and week out when you could just stop watching it if you don't like it or at the very least shut up about it.....I'm sure next week you will be back to saying there is no hope for it again. So see you then. P.S. Ratings have actually been going up this season so again I don't think you know what your talking about most of the time.
@Kyndryd well according to most comic canon Nyssa (not Nissa) has used the Lazarus Pit before is over a hundred years old while Talia who has not used the Lazarus Pit is closer to Bruce's age so it is possibly she could not even be born yet and if she were she would be a child. So I doubt it has to do with approval, if they got Ra's they def could have used Talia probably just chose not to.
@WoJo I get what your saying and agree with you. "Overzealous fanatics" as I would call them do indeed ruin conversation. Again I might not see the SJW stuff in the arrowverse shows but I may just be blocking it out. At least you sat here and had a reasonable conversation though unlike some people on here who would just attack and swear at people who don't agree with them. I appreciate that. (P.S. I love Kingdom Come Deliverance great game.)
@WhatTheHeckFire does anyone really care about the stars on this site clearly they dont mean anything given the number one trending series right now is 5.5 stars.....really this isn't imdb or rotten tomatoes its some pirated tv website look at all my reviews and you will see there all zero stars. I dont really care about the stars and have never been good at ranking things that way. You rated it 10 stars and haven't seen it yet so tell me what makes your review any more or less legitimate than mine because of the star rating....
Might as well wait to watch it anyway These last three episodes are probably gonna be best watched close together @TheFlyingMan after the two weeks we waited for this one their taking a month break before the next episode like wth are they gonna double the wait again and make us wait 2 months before the final episode. So dumb that they could have given us four more episodes over the next couple of weeks and made the season longer but instead they will wait to release episodes they have already finished filming months ago just to build unnecessary suspense. Shit I will have forgotten everything by then (not really but come on)
Did some research and apparently there like tranquilizer bullets which again isn't really SJW its just what a hero who doesn't want to kill people would do its like saying Batman is controlled by the liberals because he hates guns not the case. Second you say leftist tv shows but as far as i know according to everyone nowadays that's every show on the air so you must speed through everything you watch. Third I am one of those people you might consider a "leftist" I'm of the opinion that I'm a little of both and there aren't really any people who wholly believe everything on one side or the other and we are here having a dialogue....most people on the left would say the same thing about people on the right and that's the problem with both sides. Looking at people who don't share your opinion as "enemies" is a stupidly aggressive way to look at the world. And also because I lean more to the left on some of my ideals like gay marriage, transgender rights, gun control that is why I always say I don't see what you people are saying about pushing messages on these shows. I don't watch these shows and say "Man Arrow wants better gun control and features gay characters and Supergirl touches on transgender issues I love this show because it feeds my belief boner" No I watch it because I like superheroes and the content that features them. If they features some issues in the show that might be based around our real world issues but are just as likely to be issues in there world I don't consider our issues I consider it theirs. And finally ya that's not how you use that word not that it's a big deal just saying for future reference.
While your probably right @WoJo my only point was really that the lack of shooting on the enemy side is that there non shooting or missing has nothing to do with SJWs it clearly doesn't given the good side always fires there guns and hit there marks that's all I was saying. But i also agree with @Kruciphix what do you mean know your enemies and finally in your latest comment not to be a grammar nazi but did you mean dredged and not dreaded
@Hellfist i wish they had done that I'm sure you finished it by now and saw they said it was because of A. Her fragile state (weak excuse), and B. they need her consent (so dumb) and those are some flimsy reasons your reason would have been much more fitting to the show and the whole timeline is malleable stuff there playing with right now.
This just took a turn for the dumb love the show but they literally used the past to affect the future with scratching the timesphere and yet the moment they realize Grace is the new Cicada from the future they don't go use there metahuman cure on her to prevent her being future Cicada unless I am missing something.....sometimes these guys miss the most obvious answer.
Everything is always about the SJWs on this site jesus give it a break it is I think its funny that people seem to things thugs/soldiers/bad guys in general in super hero things or really anything should be crack shots and always hit a target there is plenty of gunfire in this show on the good side that makes its mark obviously the enemies are given stormtrooper aim that is literally pop culture one oh one bad guys always suck with guns it has nothing to do with sjws and there opinions on guns.